Bob Ney and Steve Bowers start with the Dept. of Justice defending the President in a Legal Case (Is this right, Ney has some experience here).  From there the conversation goes to the Michael Cohen book (Ney questions how Cohen is getting away with this so soon out of prison / Ney also says the book is light … many details missing) … Also explored the campaign impact.  Then the conversation goes to Saudi and the Khashoggi sentences ….  Insights in all.